|Red Orb Location
|Sootopolis City – Gift from Team Magma Leader Maxie after battling Groudon in the Cave of Origin
|Mt Pyre’s Summit – Gift from Elders after defeating Team Aqua Admin Matt
The Red Orb, which functions as Groudon’s Mega Stone, will be given to you at different points in the game depending on which version you’re playing.
In Omega Ruby, Maxie will give you the Red Orb in Sootopolis City after you battle Groudon in the Cave of Origin.
If you’re playing Alpha Sapphire, the Elders on Mt. Pyre’s summit will entrust you with the Red Orb after you defeat Team Aqua Admin Matt in a battle. This event happens some time after you obtain the sixth Gym Badge, but since Groudon isn’t available in this version, you might not be able to use it.
Red Orb Location (Omega Ruby)
To obtain the Red Orb in Omega Ruby, you need to progress to a specific point in the main story. So make sure you’ve:
- Obtained the seventh Gym Badge from Liza & Tate, Mossdeep City’s Gym Leaders
- Defeated Leader Maxie in Seafloor Cavern and watch him awaken Groudon with the Red Orb
- Used HM07 Dive on Route 126 to gain access to Sootopolis City
Obtaining the Red Orb in Sootopolis City (Step-by-Step)
Start by heading to the northwest side of Sootopolis City:
Step 1: Begin by approaching Steven and Wallace, which will trigger a cutscene in which you’ll receive the Magma Suit from Team Magma.
Step 2: After the cutscene concludes, head straight up through the Cave of Origin’s entrance.
Step 3: Once you’re inside the cave, start moving north up the hallway.
Step 4: Keep moving north until you encounter the staircase leading to the lower level.
Step 5: Descend the stairs, turn left, and follow the path straight up.
Step 6: Ignore the left path for the time being. Instead, proceed along the hallway and turn right at the corner.
Step 7: Head eastward until you reach another staircase leading to the lower floor.
Step 8: On this floor, make your way to the bottom-right side of the hallway by going down two sets of stairs near you.
Step 9: After reaching the bottom-right corner, turn left and proceed westward.
Step 10: At the end of the path, descend another set of stairs to the next floor.
Step 11: From the staircase, head north and follow the path until you discover another staircase in the top-left corner of the hallway.
Step 12: Then head south, proceeding towards the hallway’s southern side.
Step 13: Turn left at the bottom-right corner and descend the final staircase.
Step 14: On this floor, approach the room’s center to initiate another cutscene.
Step 15: During the cutscene you’ll get to wear the Magma Suit. This will allow Groudon to transport you safely to the cave’s deepest area.
Step 16: After the cutscene, you’ll have an opportunity to save before battling Groudon. If you’re ready, interact with Groudon to start the battle.
Step 17: In a cutscene, Groudon undergoes Primal Reversion to transform into Primal Groudon. This is your opportunity to catch it!
If you accidentally defeat it, you’ll have another chance to catch it again later on. Alternatively, you can reload an earlier save file.
Step 18: After catching or defeating Groudon, one last lengthy cutscene will play. Then Maxie will give you the Red Orb.
Red Orb Location (Alpha Sapphire)
To obtain the Red Orb in Alpha Sapphire, you need to progress to a specific point in the main story. So make sure you’ve:
- Obtained the sixth Gym Badge from Winona, Fortree City’s Gym Leader
- Gained access to Mt. Pyre, a Pokémon memorial site located on Route 122
Obtaining the Red Orb on Mt. Pyre (Step-by-Step)
Proceed to Mt. Pyre by using the entrance at the base of the mountain.
Step 1: As you ascend the structure inside Mt. Pyre, you’ll eventually reach its exterior. Follow the narrow path until you reach Mt. Pyre’s summit.
Step 2: Near the path to the summit, defeat the two Team Aqua Grunts so you can go up the staircase.
|Team Aqua Grunt
|Team Aqua Grunt
|Water / Dark
Step 3: As you climb the stairs, defeat one more Team Aqua Grunt to proceed.
|Team Aqua Grunt
|Poison / Flying
Step 4: Once you beat the third Grunt, go up and approach the stairs.
A cutscene will play in which Team Aqua Leader Archie steals the Blue Orb. Then he’ll escape and ask Aqua Admin Matt to battle you.
|Team Aqua Admin Matt
|Water / Dark
Step 5: After you win, Team Aqua will leave and the Elders will give you the Red Orb.
However, Groudon isn’t obtainable in Alpha Sapphire. So you’ll need someone with Pokémon Omega Ruby to trade you a Groudon to use the Red Orb.
How does the Red Orb Work?
Unlike in previous generations, the Red Orb in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire is now classified as a Held Item, not a Key Item.
The Red Orb now works similarly to a Mega Stone, but not exactly the same.
When Groudon holds it, the item triggers its transformation into Primal Groudon as soon as it enters battle.
Also, it’s important to note that using the Red Orb to transform Groudon doesn’t count as your one allowed Mega Evolution in each battle. This means you can still use Mega Evolution on a different Pokemon in the same battle where the Red Orb was used.
Is Primal Groudon Worth Using?
With its new form, Primal Groudon ranks among the most overpowered Pokémon in the game alongside Primal Kyogre and Mega Rayquaza.
In competitive battles where Legendary Pokémon are allowed, most winning teams use Primal Groudon or Primal Kyogre due to how valuable they are.
When Primal Reversion occurs, Groudon transforms into Primal Groudon and its base stats increase significantly.
Its typing also changes, Primal Groudon now becomes a Ground/Fire-type Pokémon.
And finally, it also gains an exclusive signature ability Desolate Land, which creates the Harsh Sunshine weather until it leaves the battle.
If you want to use Primal Groudon in your team, consider the following:
Primal Groudon’s Versatility. Due to its high Attack and Special Attack, Primal Groudon can be a powerful Physical, Special, or Mixed attacker. Its extensive movepool coupled with solid defensive stats allow it to potentially KO most enemies and withstand any unboosted attack.
Desolate Land’s Utility. The Harsh Sunshine weather generated by Primal Groudon is similar to normal Sunshine. Uniquely, it cancels out Water-type attacks while it’s active. This effectively removes Primal Groudon’s 4x weakness to Water, leaving it with a single x2 weakness to Ground. Only the abilities of Primal Kyogre or Mega Rayquaza can alter or remove this weather effect.
Raw Power of Precipice Blades. Groudon’s new signature move, Precipice Blades, is essentially a more powerful, albeit less accurate, Earthquake. With even one use of Swords Dance, it has a good chance of wiping out your opponent’s entire team.
Primal Groudon as an Enabler for Sun Teams. In Double Battles, Primal Groudon is a great choice with Pokémon that benefit from the Harsh Sun weather. Fire-types and Grass-types with moves and abilities like Solar Beam or Chlorophyll are especially effective in this weather.
Limited Use in Most Formats. While Primal Groudon doesn’t have any major weaknesses in battle, its use is often limited. In many battle rules and formats, a lot of Legendary Pokémon are usually banned. They’re not even permitted in the Super Singles/Doubles format in the Battle Maison.